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Does false empowerment really help women?

Like pretending they’re “equal” with men at certain tasks like firefighting. Take this article for instance:

http://www.firehouse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97666

Excerpts:

“What these two women saw — and experienced — is not what you might think.

Nobody tried to make either of them fail. No “old boys” got in their way. Mary was admired by her male boss and encouraged at each step to be a firefighter. “I was just too slow,” she says. Firefighting equipment, like the one-man ladders, started “getting heavier,” and she began to realize she wasn’t strong enough to repeatedly lift it — a necessary skill. Eight weeks into the training — which causes plenty of men to wash out — Mary was stunned to realize that her body had begun “breaking down.”

“Jon McDuffie, first vice president of the L.A. firefighters’ union, says, “You can throw millions of dollars into this,” but departments all over the country are struggling to recruit women. “We can’t all be wrong.” ”

So when we pretend women are “equal” to men and throw millions of dollars of taxpayer money away to try and prove something that no one really believes, deep down… Is it REALLY helping women/society?

Women know firehouses are there. Women have all of the opportunities men have to join up. If they haven’t chosen that field for themselves, do we really need to try and go after them… especially when their biology isn’t exactly a good fit for a firefighter?

Are we taking false empowerment too far?

10 Responses to “Does false empowerment really help women?”

  • I AM AMERICA (And so can you!):

    Construction companies are having the same problems.
    The large majority of women just can’t hold their own in those kinds of jobs.
    Affirmative action is killing American business.

  • Eric:

    For all of those who disagree with you, I’d ask them which fire department they would want to respond to their call if they were trapped in a burning house? The one who dropped standards in the name of “equality” or the one that held all applicants to the highest of standards?

  • MESSIAH:

    I still maintain that there are many jobs that define life-and-death, and high standards should never be lowered to look good in the political eye. It is absolutely shameful that L.A., already on the verge of bankruptcy, would throw precious money around in the name of equality. As for making sure 20% were female? That’s preposterous! Hire the best available, and only the best, and if a woman can’t make it, tough! These are peoples lives we are talking about, not political games.

  • Jane:

    I wouldn’t want my life in the hands of someone incapable of saving it.

  • Cassius:

    You mean like sending a 5 foot something female officer on patrol with a strong 6 foot 4 male officer and pretend the 2 are the same ?

    It makes them feel good, and women are emotive, therefore, yes it helps them. They did not complain so far about men faking them taking them seriously.

  • Schadenfreudian:

    Other professions:

    –Sanitation Engineer
    –Crane loader (at ship terminals)
    –”Wastewater” treatment plant operator
    –Underwater hull welder
    –Massive power cable line…uh…person
    –Lumberjack
    –Forge operator
    –Coast Guard rescue swimmer
    –Oil rig drillbit operator

    Creating fantasies to help others feel good about themselves can be a damned dangerous practice. Though many of those above pay well, they’re just not status-y enough, like lawyer or principal or doctor, etc.

  • ʄaçade:

    Hop, the important thing to do is make sure that all infernos are female-friendly. As for carrying the injured downstairs, well, you and I can help by losing a few pounds, eh?

  • WaldoBC:

    Sorry Cassius. I gave you a thumbs down and then realized you are the only one who answered the question.

    I agree with Cassius. False empowerment, unfortunately, does help women.

    It’s just not good for society as a whole. I think most of us have the same opinion that society is taking equality and political correctness too far.

  • becky:

    No, false empowerment does not help women, I agree this has gone too far and I don’t see the point of it.
    I think its a case of some feminists taking the word “equality” too literally and chasing the concept way too far, forgetting that men and women are too physically and biologically different to be treated exactly the same in every scenario and job, and that lowering the standard of work for the sake of reverse discrimination is a huge step backwards.

  • Daisy Buchanon:

    How is female biology not “fit” for firefighting? Do you KNOW anything about firefighting? O.o

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